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Weekend Stuffs

By jcalvert | February 12, 2005 at 12:05 pm

It was a long week on the work front, so pretty much nothing in the way of blogging activities. A few random nuggets:

All for now. Don’t forget to buy your significant other something special for Valentines Day!

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4 Responses to “Weekend Stuffs”

  1. wco81 Says:
    February 13th, 2005 at 5:27 pm

    Reason people aren’t saving is that they either don’t make enough (living from paycheck to paycheck) or live above their means (credit card debt).

    Consider that the biggest employer in the country is Wal Mart. A lot of Wal Mart employees need state assistance like food stamps.

    Thirty-years ago, the biggest employer was GM and on a single paycheck back then, a family could afford a nice home and save for college education.

    As for SS, there have been opponents of SS ever since its inception. The ones carrying the flag for the last 30 years against SS has been Cato/Heritage. They don’t want to "reform" or fix SS, they would like to scrap it altogether.

    They’re not above dishonest arguments to forward this cause. First they say SS returns are poor but SS was never an investment or a pension. Then they say things like SS is going to go bust (Bush said SS would be "bankrupt" in 2042 in the State of the Union when nobody who has studied the situation believes that is anywhere near the truth).

    Younger generations have had a cynicism about SS for a long time. In high school, before we earned our first paychecks, classmates would express cynicism about SS.

    SS wasn’t intended to be the sole source of retirement income (even though a lot off seniors currently need SS to stay above the poverty level). That is what pensions, 401K, IRAs and other investments are for.

    There are political and economic agendas behind this proposed reform. It’s a good idea to learn what those are before deciding on the merits.

  2. Ted Leiker Says:
    February 13th, 2005 at 10:59 pm

    Listen to this from conservative Glenn Hubbard:

    http://www.publicradio.org/…

    And please listen to this from liberal Robert Reisch.

    http://www.publicradio.org/…

    I hate the conservative/liberal label. I put it in to let you know that this is opinion from two sides.

    Notice that Hubbard says SS is a "fly in the ointment", but that the big problem is the deficit (or too much spending).

    Reisch makes interesting points, specifically that SS is currently a 160 billion surplus system and will have bigger surpluses in the next decade.

    The real problem is the government borrowing from the SS fund. It’s legal and it is going to destroy the system from within.

    I believe that Bush wants to privatise SS so that the government doesn’t have to pay back those loans in the future. If you privatise and scrap the system then the money owed doesn’t matter since you don’t have to pay anymore. While I do not have any evidence to support my position, it seems the logical reason to me.

    I feel like your comment that SS is antiquated is hyperbole and there is enough of that being thrown around by the people that want to scrap the system. SS is very necessary at this point and will be for the next 20 years at least. 20 years is the minimum amount of time that you need to fund a comfortable retirement out of your own savings. And that is with good returns, modest to zero inflation, and an income that supports a savings plan.

    If the government was being truthful with us about why the system was in trouble I think there would be more talk about government reform and less about SS reform.

    Thanks for letting me respond,

    Ted

  3. wco81 Says:
    February 15th, 2005 at 6:45 pm

    I thought the surplus was more like $1.5 trillion right now and in the next decade, it should go way up because these are the peak earning years for the baby boomers.

    Which is why it might make sense to boost the cap on the payroll tax from $90k.

    Yeah they’ve been borrowing from the SS Trust Fund. Clinton did it too and Gore proposed the lock box. So they’ve been borrowing and at some point, they are suppose to pay back from general revenues. The US govt. has never defaulted on its obligations. If they did, not only would SS be screwed up, the global financial markets would be roiled since US Treasury bonds and bills are widely held throughout the world.

    WSJ did a survey of countries which privatized and found that those countries which did well had a good fiscal situation and those that didn’t fared worse.

  4. Ted Leiker Says:
    February 15th, 2005 at 7:34 pm

    wco,

    You may be perfectly right. The 160 billion is the amount the deficit was reduced by Bush. It doesn’t necessarily mean he borrowed all of the surplus. Yes, Bush is not the first Pres to borrow. Our politicians have been doing this for awhile, but I’m not sure who the first one was. Interesting that conservative radio did use to rail against Clinton for doing such a thing. Calling it smoke and mirrors. Until he got the BJ and that was all anyone focused on. Nary a peep from them when Bush does it although many fiscal conservatives are shaking their heads (see Hubbard).

    I just don’t see how anyone can look at this as a SS problem when it is obvious that overspending and the federal income taxation system is the problem.

    Ted

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