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		<title>By: jcalvert</title>
		<link>http://www.calvertgames.com/cgblog/2005/02/24/gran-turismo-4-first-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-201</link>
		<dc:creator>jcalvert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jphillips - thanks for the comments, and for reading the blog!&lt;br /&gt;
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I am only 5% complete; just need more time and there never seems to be enough to go around.&lt;br /&gt;
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Are you saying that the game is over after you get the Toyota GT-One because it is so damn good (i.e. one of the best cars in the game), or just because by that point the races get easier?  Hopefully you can still have a good time without a car that is balls-out solid, because I would be pretty bitter if the game is no longer fun less than 25% complete.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jphillips &#8211; thanks for the comments, and for reading the blog!</p>
<p>I am only 5% complete; just need more time and there never seems to be enough to go around.</p>
<p>Are you saying that the game is over after you get the Toyota GT-One because it is so damn good (i.e. one of the best cars in the game), or just because by that point the races get easier?  Hopefully you can still have a good time without a car that is balls-out solid, because I would be pretty bitter if the game is no longer fun less than 25% complete.</p>
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		<title>By: jphillips</title>
		<link>http://www.calvertgames.com/cgblog/2005/02/24/gran-turismo-4-first-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-200</link>
		<dc:creator>jphillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hsve been playing GT4 for pretty much 4 days straight now.  The addictivity (made up a word there..) is through the roof.  I have never had this kind of experience befoe.  Im only at 15% completion!  This is going to take a lot of my time and I would have it no other way.  The one thing I would change is once you have saved up enough for the toyota Gt-One, the games pretty much over...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hsve been playing GT4 for pretty much 4 days straight now.  The addictivity (made up a word there..) is through the roof.  I have never had this kind of experience befoe.  Im only at 15% completion!  This is going to take a lot of my time and I would have it no other way.  The one thing I would change is once you have saved up enough for the toyota Gt-One, the games pretty much over&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Simpson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2005 18:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JC, Lexbur at DSP made reference to a licence test involving the Bentley at Le Mans so it has to be in there somewhere.  My understanding at the minute is that it may not necessarily be called Le Mans - not certain on this but a magazine I flicked through earlier today suggested that it was much like Monaco from a naming viewpoint.&lt;br /&gt;
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Either way, it should be in there.  Seems like the PAL release is receiving a few added features, hopefully Le Mans is a carry over from NTSC rather than something especially for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JC, Lexbur at DSP made reference to a licence test involving the Bentley at Le Mans so it has to be in there somewhere.  My understanding at the minute is that it may not necessarily be called Le Mans &#8211; not certain on this but a magazine I flicked through earlier today suggested that it was much like Monaco from a naming viewpoint.</p>
<p>Either way, it should be in there.  Seems like the PAL release is receiving a few added features, hopefully Le Mans is a carry over from NTSC rather than something especially for us.</p>
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		<title>By: jcalvert</title>
		<link>http://www.calvertgames.com/cgblog/2005/02/24/gran-turismo-4-first-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-177</link>
		<dc:creator>jcalvert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2005 11:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam, Circuit de la Sarthe is in the Japan version of GT4, so I assume it is in the US version (somewhere).  That is great news - if it is the game.  In general I do not &quot;cheat&quot; but I may have to break down and try to find a way to open this track sooner rather than later.&lt;br /&gt;
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Reference:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=52653&quot;&gt;http://www.gtplanet.net/for...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam, Circuit de la Sarthe is in the Japan version of GT4, so I assume it is in the US version (somewhere).  That is great news &#8211; if it is the game.  In general I do not &quot;cheat&quot; but I may have to break down and try to find a way to open this track sooner rather than later.</p>
<p>Reference:  <a href="http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=52653"></a><a href="http://www.gtplanet.net/for.." rel="nofollow">http://www.gtplanet.net/for..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: jcalvert</title>
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		<dc:creator>jcalvert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2005 10:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam, if La Sarthe is in the US version, It is not available right away in the standard simulation mode (I have not played arcade mode yet).  I have not searched for cheats and secrets yet, so maybe La Sarthe is included.  I hope you are right and I am wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam, if La Sarthe is in the US version, It is not available right away in the standard simulation mode (I have not played arcade mode yet).  I have not searched for cheats and secrets yet, so maybe La Sarthe is included.  I hope you are right and I am wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: jcalvert</title>
		<link>http://www.calvertgames.com/cgblog/2005/02/24/gran-turismo-4-first-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-170</link>
		<dc:creator>jcalvert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2005 12:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam - very cool about La Sarthe - I guess I just have not had enough time with the game to either notice the track, unlock it, or see where it is on the stupid gaming map.  I am going to have some fun this weekend!&lt;br /&gt;
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You are so spot on about the driving.  GT4 = best driving experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam &#8211; very cool about La Sarthe &#8211; I guess I just have not had enough time with the game to either notice the track, unlock it, or see where it is on the stupid gaming map.  I am going to have some fun this weekend!</p>
<p>You are so spot on about the driving.  GT4 = best driving experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Simpson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2005 09:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One last note - I can spell Circuit, but my fingers are cold.  I assume if there are two versions of Le Mans in there, the short Bugatti circuit must be the other one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One last note &#8211; I can spell Circuit, but my fingers are cold.  I assume if there are two versions of Le Mans in there, the short Bugatti circuit must be the other one.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Simpson</title>
		<link>http://www.calvertgames.com/cgblog/2005/02/24/gran-turismo-4-first-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-168</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2005 09:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was certain I saw a picture of it in a magazine review I glanced at the other day - something about two versions of the Le Mans racetrack and a picture of a Bentley EXP Speed 8 exiting the Ford chicane at the end of the lap.  Now, since you own the game and I don&#039;t, I thought I&#039;d better check if Curcuit de La Sarthe was there...&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tuninglinx.com/html/gran-turismo-4-release-date.html&quot;&gt;http://www.tuninglinx.com/h...&lt;/a&gt; says this - &#039;The Best Tracks... GT4 boasts a 52 track line-up including world-famous circuits such as Suzuka and, for the first time, the notorious Nurburgring Nordschleife and La Sarthe at Le Mans.&#039;  I&#039;ve never pre-ordered before and I&#039;m certain to get a copy anyway but I think I&#039;ll be toddling off to GAME this afternoon, just in case...&lt;br /&gt;
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I remember all the banter, in the thread where I said there was no chance of the Nordschleife being in GT4...you have to say that La Sarthe with Polyphony physics and a Le Mans-spec sportscar like that Bentley can only be driving heaven.  That&#039;s the reason I play these games - racing is secondary with GT.  Last time out I got to take a Panoz Esperante GT1 round Monaco for 2 hours and then thrash it around the streets of Seattle, all the while convinced that if I could do it for real it wouldn&#039;t be a million times removed from what I was already experiencing.&lt;br /&gt;
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The driving is what I play for.  Show me the press release that called it &#039;The Real Racing Simulator&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was certain I saw a picture of it in a magazine review I glanced at the other day &#8211; something about two versions of the Le Mans racetrack and a picture of a Bentley EXP Speed 8 exiting the Ford chicane at the end of the lap.  Now, since you own the game and I don&#8217;t, I thought I&#8217;d better check if Curcuit de La Sarthe was there&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tuninglinx.com/html/gran-turismo-4-release-date.html"></a><a href="http://www.tuninglinx.com/h.." rel="nofollow">http://www.tuninglinx.com/h..</a>. says this &#8211; &#8216;The Best Tracks&#8230; GT4 boasts a 52 track line-up including world-famous circuits such as Suzuka and, for the first time, the notorious Nurburgring Nordschleife and La Sarthe at Le Mans.&#8217;  I&#8217;ve never pre-ordered before and I&#8217;m certain to get a copy anyway but I think I&#8217;ll be toddling off to GAME this afternoon, just in case&#8230;</p>
<p>I remember all the banter, in the thread where I said there was no chance of the Nordschleife being in GT4&#8230;you have to say that La Sarthe with Polyphony physics and a Le Mans-spec sportscar like that Bentley can only be driving heaven.  That&#8217;s the reason I play these games &#8211; racing is secondary with GT.  Last time out I got to take a Panoz Esperante GT1 round Monaco for 2 hours and then thrash it around the streets of Seattle, all the while convinced that if I could do it for real it wouldn&#8217;t be a million times removed from what I was already experiencing.</p>
<p>The driving is what I play for.  Show me the press release that called it &#8216;The Real Racing Simulator&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: jcalvert</title>
		<link>http://www.calvertgames.com/cgblog/2005/02/24/gran-turismo-4-first-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-167</link>
		<dc:creator>jcalvert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2005 06:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam, I can see where people are coming from, but I think the jump between GT1 and GT3 was worth the purchase of GT3 - the basic game formula has not changed, but many would argue that the physic changes and graphics overhaul where worth the upgrade.  Now GT1 to GT2 was not that significant - I did not put in very much time in GT2, but I did finish GT1.  Unlike other franchises, it seems like GT games are released every three or so years, which makes updates to the cars, tracks, and physics engine worth the wait.  It is not as if they are trying to push yearly roster updates on us.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the AI front; I am going to post more later (hopefully today).  It may be marginally better, but not enough to write home about.  Do fans of the series even care that the AI sucks?  It seems to me that we accept this and move on to playing the game for different reasons.&lt;br /&gt;
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Are you saying that Le Sarthe (Le Mans) is in the game?  I better pay more attention!  You remember back in the CG days when we had banter about GT4 being worth the price of admission just for this track?  The &#039;ring is fabulous - I cannot wait to get a proper race car on that circuit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam, I can see where people are coming from, but I think the jump between GT1 and GT3 was worth the purchase of GT3 &#8211; the basic game formula has not changed, but many would argue that the physic changes and graphics overhaul where worth the upgrade.  Now GT1 to GT2 was not that significant &#8211; I did not put in very much time in GT2, but I did finish GT1.  Unlike other franchises, it seems like GT games are released every three or so years, which makes updates to the cars, tracks, and physics engine worth the wait.  It is not as if they are trying to push yearly roster updates on us.</p>
<p>On the AI front; I am going to post more later (hopefully today).  It may be marginally better, but not enough to write home about.  Do fans of the series even care that the AI sucks?  It seems to me that we accept this and move on to playing the game for different reasons.</p>
<p>Are you saying that Le Sarthe (Le Mans) is in the game?  I better pay more attention!  You remember back in the CG days when we had banter about GT4 being worth the price of admission just for this track?  The &#8216;ring is fabulous &#8211; I cannot wait to get a proper race car on that circuit.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Simpson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2005 05:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JC,&lt;br /&gt;
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The early reviews over here (release date is apparently now March 9th, which is a Wednesday, which is very odd since all our games release on a Friday...GT4 ain&#039;t that special, surely?) suggest that the AI isn&#039;t that much of a step forward, if indeed it&#039;s a step forward at all.  Look forward to seeing what you make of it.&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ve read criticisms elsewhere saying, quite correctly, that the series hasn&#039;t moved on since 1998, that you&#039;re better off playing the original GT than any of the updates and that GT4 is nothing more than a group of extra tracks and cars tacked on to the same old game.  Sadly, that&#039;s exactly why I&#039;m buying it - the &#039;Ring in a pukka race car with the GT physics engine can&#039;t be anything other than glorious.  Same for Sears Point (Infineon Raceway, if we must) and Le Mans.  By the way, how long has it been known that they were in the game?  I had no idea until yesterday...&lt;br /&gt;
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Apparently, GT4 owners with a GT4 Prologue save on their memory cards have to complete fewer of the licence tests - presumably the tests are the same in some cases so we aren&#039;t made to complete them twice.  Some of the new tracks were featured in GT4 Prologue too - the Italian hilltop circuit (Citta del Aria, I think) is just fantastic, almost like driving around your living room with some of the faster, wider machines.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nice impressions JC, keep us posted.  Oh, and if you need any tips for the &#039;Ring, give me a whistle - as well as knowing the layout and lines better than many, I can point out all the accident blackspots, mainly because I&#039;ve tested them all extensively through GPL and PGR.  The scrap metal collection I&#039;ve built up...&lt;br /&gt;
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Cheers,&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JC,</p>
<p>The early reviews over here (release date is apparently now March 9th, which is a Wednesday, which is very odd since all our games release on a Friday&#8230;GT4 ain&#8217;t that special, surely?) suggest that the AI isn&#8217;t that much of a step forward, if indeed it&#8217;s a step forward at all.  Look forward to seeing what you make of it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read criticisms elsewhere saying, quite correctly, that the series hasn&#8217;t moved on since 1998, that you&#8217;re better off playing the original GT than any of the updates and that GT4 is nothing more than a group of extra tracks and cars tacked on to the same old game.  Sadly, that&#8217;s exactly why I&#8217;m buying it &#8211; the &#8216;Ring in a pukka race car with the GT physics engine can&#8217;t be anything other than glorious.  Same for Sears Point (Infineon Raceway, if we must) and Le Mans.  By the way, how long has it been known that they were in the game?  I had no idea until yesterday&#8230;</p>
<p>Apparently, GT4 owners with a GT4 Prologue save on their memory cards have to complete fewer of the licence tests &#8211; presumably the tests are the same in some cases so we aren&#8217;t made to complete them twice.  Some of the new tracks were featured in GT4 Prologue too &#8211; the Italian hilltop circuit (Citta del Aria, I think) is just fantastic, almost like driving around your living room with some of the faster, wider machines.</p>
<p>Nice impressions JC, keep us posted.  Oh, and if you need any tips for the &#8216;Ring, give me a whistle &#8211; as well as knowing the layout and lines better than many, I can point out all the accident blackspots, mainly because I&#8217;ve tested them all extensively through GPL and PGR.  The scrap metal collection I&#8217;ve built up&#8230;</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Adam</p>
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